Subject	It may sound simple, but you are talking about averaging
Posted by	AshsZ on January 28, 2004 at 5:37 PM
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In Reply To	So spend $400 on a SAFC just so it can average two posted by MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) on January 28, 2004 at 05:19 PM
Message	or adding two non-linear signals. An SAFC actually has a setup parameter in it to tell it what kind of MAS units you are using such that the add or average function does it correctly. Really though, the easiest way to do it is go to something like the DOOLZ and just use one MAS. Its very easy to setup and you will get more performance out of spending the $400 on the DOOLZ (with the extra filter you will need) and tuning for that rather than spending whatever on an SAFC. The Peacemaker has a dual intake and we are only using one MAS unit. If both of your wastegates are calibrated to each other before you install it into the car, you wont have any issues with maintaining equal A/F on both sides. [ ashleypowers.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] [ Zemulator Information Sheet ] [ Z1 Motorsports Website ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast? If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. Albert Einstein
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(n/m) - nixit 15:02:33 01/28/04 Nixit , have you ever programmed an operating system? - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:06:43 01/28/04 *sigh* It was an analogy. (n/m) - Kenny 16:01:37 01/28/04 Reading an instructin manual does not make one an - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:06:54 01/28/04 Did you respond to the wrong post? (n/m) - Kenny 16:20:51 01/28/04 Wow... - safZ 16:05:24 01/28/04 How many IC's have you designed and tested and worked with - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:16:55 01/28/04 Re: How many IC's have you designed and tested and worked with - safZ 16:30:05 01/28/04 then Z1 should teach a tuning class like many of the - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:49:35 01/28/04 Really its much simpler than that. Aaron Kimball in - AshsZ 17:34:14 01/28/04 That's what I thought. Some people here feel they - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:09:50 01/28/04 Re: How many IC's have you designed and tested and worked with - Spee 17:58:11 01/28/04 I said that don't own their own business. I am sure - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:07:21 01/28/04 I know that. - Spee 18:30:03 01/28/04 What kind of cars do they tune? Are we talking exotics? (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 22:08:33 01/28/04 nope, hondas and DSMs. - Spee 23:03:03 01/28/04 Guiness Draft Pints. you can buy me an 8 pack at ZCON2k4! (n/m) - nixit 13:34:52 01/28/04 black n tan is the stuff ! - genic 13:37:16 01/28/04 *sigh* Instruction manuals are worthless... - aliaZ 13:54:21 01/28/04 depends on how well it is written. If the user can't - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 14:43:16 01/28/04 agreed (n/m) - aliaZ 20:51:21 01/28/04 You saying you read the Zem instruction manual and you - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 14:45:02 01/28/04 nope (n/m) - aliaZ 18:39:37 01/28/04 You sir are the weakest link Goodbye :-) (n/m) - TARGETZ 14:02:30 01/28/04 Maybe Fred you suggest a simulator for tuning like - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 14:46:57 01/28/04 TargetZ's name is Todd not Fred. (n/m) - Chip(GMS Racing) 15:05:07 01/28/04 LOL I wish I had Fred's Z though! :-) (n/m) - TARGETZ 15:42:30 01/28/04 I learned how to fly? cool :-) (n/m) - TARGETZ 15:43:18 01/28/04 Like any after-market up grade there's a disclaimer,,lol - ZBlacktt 11:59:11 01/28/04 Why don't you give and grade the test too. (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 12:48:30 01/28/04 Agreed. We don't want a bunch of "ZEM wrecked my car" posts - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 12:48:37 01/28/04 Cool ... I'll check it out when I get home .. - PLEAZURE in CA (SD) 11:48:02 01/28/04 congrats fellas (n/m) - Tennyson (ATL) 11:54:07 01/28/04 Pretty cool! But for me >> - Arnel(Z32R.com) 12:04:34 01/28/04 Keep in mind that you can tune it to be as weak or as strong - AshsZ 12:07:44 01/28/04 I was just about to add that very fact. >> - Arnel(Z32R.com) 12:11:27 01/28/04 How about adding air temperature and water temperature - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 12:29:48 01/28/04 looks liek i need to pick up a laptop (n/m) - JDMz32smity 12:33:48 01/28/04 Two words for ya E Bay (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 12:45:26 01/28/04 good point hahaha (n/m) - JDMz32smity 12:58:15 01/28/04 technically thats a letter, -, and a word. - genic 13:00:36 01/28/04 ? on the stock guy :) - ZBlacktt 12:34:32 01/28/04 Complicated question to answer, but I'm sure the differences - AshsZ 12:43:13 01/28/04 Oh, and I've also found that not all 5speed cams are - AshsZ 17:29:04 01/28/04 Nice info. I think one here on the forum posted that the - northZ 00:06:39 01/29/04 one quick question: - E_swift (molmolmolmol) 12:44:54 01/28/04 It comes with all the hardware you need for the features - AshsZ 12:50:53 01/28/04 ridiculously awesome (n/m) - E_swift (molmolmolmol) 14:13:01 01/28/04 some great info, u know u got my vote!!! (n/m) - Wagz 12:46:14 01/28/04 results talk for themselves i guess and if all that you - gtclk 12:52:21 01/28/04 Aaron Kimball owns a VE powered Maxima.. LOL - Maximamike 12:55:56 01/28/04 Yep, that's my 'other' ZEM project. :) (n/m) - AshsZ 13:00:50 01/28/04 Congrats! A couple of quick questions... - TARGETZ 14:05:08 01/28/04 It cannot link to a second MAS sensor, however you can - AshsZ 15:07:30 01/28/04 thanks for reply Ash (n/m) - TARGETZ 15:41:41 01/28/04 Or use a non-inverting op-amp circuit to avg. them (n/m) - safZ 17:05:52 01/28/04 Its not that simple. Read my response to MikeH. (n/m) - AshsZ 17:41:02 01/28/04 So spend $400 on a SAFC just so it can average two - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:19:07 01/28/04 It may sound simple, but you are talking about averaging - AshsZ 17:37:18 01/28/04 cool stuff - Carlos Ramirez 14:27:08 01/28/04 We wont be combining the hardware devices. Its actually - AshsZ 18:12:29 01/28/04 how many times do you need really need add the sensors - Carlos Ramirez 19:25:28 01/28/04 Like I said, it is just personal preference for me. - AshsZ 09:26:53 01/29/04 Does it have a "Danger to Manifold" warning? - J.R. (phx) 15:33:03 01/28/04 Nice to see the release, it sure is great in my car. - aZiator 19:33:38 01/28/04
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